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Germany offered england many peace offers, perhaps it would be prudent to take inspiration from one of those.
Of britain peaced out of WWII germany would have won. Remember that Pearl harbour happened during the battle of Moskow. That's when the soviets realized Japan wouldn't fight them and sent the fresh forces from eastern Russia to help out defending the capital. And that was when the USA started to send money and suplies to the soviets, also the US only did it because the Soviets were fughting along side the brits. But that's peanutts, because the UK made the Germans lose one year after the Invasion of Poland. So if the brits peaced out everything would happen earlier. By december 1941 Moskow would be on German hands for over one year. Forget those wet dreams about a all powerful Russia… it never existed. Numbers mean sht when you're Russia, because sht is just that… sht.
Whether people like it or not, its hegemons responsibilty to protect what theu can. Thats what Britain did.
Still depicting Germany as the ruthless conqueror
I would like Germany to win.
Russian winter be like
So basically nothing changes except communism is now more prominent
Вот почему я — это он.
Less likely. Without Britain, that means no Battle of Britain and a peace treaty with France, which shouldn't entail too much of territorial loss. At worst, they lose Savoy and Alsace-Lorraine and Nord-Pas-de-Calais to Belgien-Nordfrankreich, maybe some African holdings like Djibouti and Tunisia, but nothing major in the end.
However, the Soviets???
Yes, there is a big ripple. No Atlantik Wall means hundreds of thousands of men sent to logistics proof the whole Eastern Army. This also means, a year of preparation, since no Britain means no Africa Campaign and Axis can focus locking down Europe like taking Yugoslavia's coup and Greece, enticing Turkey into a potential alliance to take Caucasian land, but if they did it before France's official treaty of surrender following the Vichy proposals, they can nab Syria for free.
Germany being able to have a clear oil supply line from Axis-aligned Iran with no invasions by Soviets or Britain, means that Germany gets their lifeline of oil from another source than Romania.
Luftwaffe is at full strength with all experienced pilots from France and Poland still being kept alive with a swatting force of He 111s, Ju 88s, Do 17s and their likes, those are not cheap aircraft. They were Fast Bombers made to bomb tactical forces, which would prove decisive in Germany's whole Airland Battle doctrine by Bombing troops, bombardments by artillery and Blitzkrieg through the lines. 3-4 million Russians died at 1941, that is a majority of the Red Army at the time and everything else were reserves thrown to stall for time. Without Britain pestering supply lines and keeping the German army at the West, Soviet Union would feel a harder blow than our timeline. Even if Russian Far Eastern troops gathered, the Germans have troops at Stalingrad reinforcing the Romanians, instead of our timeline where they aren't accompanied by enough German troops.
Soviet Union did hold out against Germany, but that was at a weaker Germany with a lacking logistics nightmare of Two Front War. Germany would win their war, score a peace deal of either the A-A Line or push them through into the Urals and send them on their Frontier Exile. Regardless, Moscow would be taken and their industrial assets wouldn't be fully evacuated as Russia had recorded that Stalin was baiting for time and stalling on the fear that the Allies would abandon the USSR when they found out that Moscow wasn't fully evacuated as he had told them. This timeline just becomes far worse.
And there is also a point that Turkey joining a more less surefire Germany would mean Baku Oil Fields would be seized, the Soviet Union would need to go tap into Kazakhstan's oil, whilst Finland might be reinforced by the Germans to further take up the Northern territories. Meaning the weak flanks would need to be manned, but even if Turkey doesn't end up joining the war.
Germany would still knock out the Soviets at the end of the war. Carve the land, and then begin to spiral if Germany hadn't figured out a functioning economy to work with, especially if mustache man is currently on the line to being very sick and hadn't named a successor to stabilize the regime.
I doubt that the soviets would win solo